I fully believe God’s Spirit inhabited the Pentecostal movement of the 1930s and beyond, but, due to abuses and lack of grounding in Torah, the movement eventually lost its way.
On the other hand, I’ve seen Torah-grounded congregations completely dead and lacking in the Spirit. I’ve seen atheist Orthodox Jews – that is, Jews practicing Judaism for the sake of Jewishness, not out of trusting in God; no life-giving Spirit within.
What we need is a kind of Pentateuchal-Pentecostal; Pentateuchal in that we are grounded in God’s practical life instructions in the Torah, Pentecostal in that we are filled with God’s life-giving Spirit.
I think it’s no coincidence that both the Torah and the Spirit were both given and manifested on the Feast of Shavuot. Both are needed within God’s assembly, and they both look ahead to Shavuot, the Feast of Tabernacles, where God will tabernacle with his people in both spirit and reality.
-Paraphrase of Daniel Botkin, as he came to speak to our congregation this week.
Spirit and Truth ALWAY agree…
ReplyDeleteI have experienced things in Spirit that are not in scripture, BUT agree with scripture. I have also seen things in everyday life that are not in scripture, BUT agree with scripture. The KEY is abiding in Yeshua. If we are in daily fellowship, a daily walk with Him, we will know the agreement (balance) between the two. That is the problem in the Church and the Messianics. The Church seeks more Spirit than truth and gets off balance. The Messianics get more truth than Spirit and get off balance. The two ALWAYS agree. That is “walking with God”.
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ReplyDeleteSpirit and Truth ALWAY agree…
ReplyDeleteI have experienced things in Spirit that are not in scripture, BUT agree with scripture. I have also seen things in everyday life that are not in scripture, BUT agree with scripture. The KEY is abiding in Yeshua. If we are in daily fellowship, a daily walk with Him, we will know the agreement (balance) between the two. That is the problem in the Church and the Messianics. The Church seeks more Spirit than truth and gets off balance. The Messianics get more truth than Spirit and get off balance. The two ALWAYS agree. That is “walking with God”.
Lou Vasquez
Spirit and Truth ALWAY agree…
ReplyDeleteI have experienced things in Spirit that are not in scripture, BUT agree with scripture. I have also seen things in everyday life that are not in scripture, BUT agree with scripture. The KEY is abiding in Yeshua. If we are in daily fellowship, a daily walk with Him, we will know the agreement (balance) between the two. That is the problem in the Church and the Messianics. The Church seeks more Spirit than truth and gets off balance. The Messianics get more truth than Spirit and get off balance. The two ALWAYS agree. That is “walking with God”.
Lou Vasquez
Here is another way of looking at it. It you think you can sum up the God of this universe. This universe, the universe mind you that we can’t even see the edges of, then you don’t perceive God.
ReplyDeleteDon’t think the these 66(protestant) or 83?(Ethiopian) can contain the God of all creation. We need to believe in a God that is larger than what we can imagine, to allow God to be God.
The Spirit is neglected to a large degree today largely due to the errors of the late 80's and 90's. We much need a move of the Holy Spirit in our congregations today. I agree that it’s no coincidence that both the Torah and the Spirit were both given and manifested on the Feast of Shavuot. Both are needed within the assembly today.
ReplyDelete"The Spirit is neglected to a large degree today largely due to the errors of the late 80's and 90's."
ReplyDeletePlease, stop equating with and mistaking emotionalism and external "signs" of "charismania" one may see in some Pentecostal churches during services for the genuine presence and work of the Spirit among believers in any generation in every day life.